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In patients who are on 3 of the 4 pillars of HF therapy for HFrEF, would you add the 4th pillar if they are no longer in symptomatic HF and LVEF normalizes?

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Cardiology · Smidt Heart Institute

This is a great question, and a data-free zone. The way I see it, the LV recovered with 3 pillars, and assuming the EF is normal and patient asymptomatic, I'm not sure what benefit is derived from the fourth pillar. I would not add it as there is no data that in patients with HFimpEF already on 3 pi...

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Cardiology · The George Washington University Hospital

Adding a fourth agent offers no proven advantage, and will increase the chance of side effects and drug interactions.

It can always be added later if symptoms develop, or EF falls.

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Cardiology · Penn Heart And Vascular Center

This is a very good question without much data. Certainly, those patients on 4 agents who improved or recovered should be continued based on the TRED-HF trial. Now, I can see the potential lack of benefit in asymptomatic patients (NYHA I) whose LVEF has normalized. In a non-ischemic patient, I proba...

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Cardiology · New Jersey Cardiology Associates

While I agree with what was written already, my take on this matter is that the situation should not occur in current times.

In our practice, we strive to start all 4 pillars within 2-4 weeks and have ARNI/BB doses maximized by week 6 in order to get the full effect and benefit of hospitalization as...

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