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What CTV expansions do you use for NSCLC with conventional chemoradiation and do you do different expansions based on specific histologies?

Some references and papers suggest 8 mm for adenocarcinoma and 6 mm for squamous cell carcinoma (Giraud et al., PMID 11072158). RTOG 1308 used 8 mm but other protocols use 5 mm.
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Radiation Oncology · Dignity Health Sacramento
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We do 5 mm for all chemoRT cases and do not alter based on histology.

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Radiation Oncology · UCLA | VA Greater Los Angeles Healthcare System
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I currently use 0 mm for all thoracic XRT cases. This is whether prescribing SBRT, Hypofx RT, Conventional RT, or CRT. I'm comfortable omitting a CTV as we have a state-of-the-art CT simulation system showing a lot of historically invisible fuzz. I make sure to include "all the fuzz" around a tumor ...

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Radiation Oncology · Mayo Clinic
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CTVs are cool things IMO. They aren't so easy to derive and are a mix of pathologic data and patterns of failure (if they are data-driven in their derivation). It's one of the few things that AI won't easily do for us since it's not radiomics per se... but I digress. :)

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Radiation Oncology · Nebraska Cancer Specialists
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We also use 5 mm expansions for all cases regardless of histology.

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Radiation Oncology · Clearview Cancer Institute
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Interesting discussion. Thanks to all who have weighed in already.

I don't think you can discuss CTV expansion out of context without considering the PTV expansion, IGRT method, 3D vs 4D sim, 3D vs 4D couch corrections, etc.

For example, a larger PTV expansion will make up for a smaller CTV expansi...

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Radiation Oncology · Froedtert Drexel Town Square Health Center
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I tend to split the difference and do 7 mm if not using a 4D CT to draw an ITV.

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Radiation Oncology · Sanford Health
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Also, Cui et al., PMID 36764460: A prospective phase II randomized study, randomizing to CTV creation or no CTV creation supports lower toxicity and equal control and survival without creation of CTV. I generally avoid it in large-volume tumors but in small tumors where we will achieve reasonable lu...

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Radiation Oncology · Wellspan Sechler Family Cancer Center
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Are we talking GTV to CTV or CTV to PTV?

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